Comments on: Being Experimental: Defying Genres http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/ Experimental Videogames (daniel@ludomancy.com) Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:45:54 -0300 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: INFINITE LIGHT http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/comment-page-1/#comment-10640 INFINITE LIGHT Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:11:54 +0000 http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/#comment-10640 To me words are like the finger pointing to the moon. The finger itself is not the moon, nor is the word actually what it is. It is a symbol pointing to it. To me words can serve as a prison to concept more than a descriptor to it. With that being said taking your idea of going beyond genres to the next level. I propose making a game without categorizing it within a genre during development. That frees you from thinking "since this game is in this genre I have to do this or I can't do that." You begin adding things to the game that best fits your goal of making the game without limits or prisons. To me words are like the finger pointing to the moon. The finger itself is not the moon, nor is the word actually what it is. It is a symbol pointing to it.

To me words can serve as a prison to concept more than a descriptor to it.

With that being said taking your idea of going beyond genres to the next level. I propose making a game without categorizing it within a genre during development.

That frees you from thinking “since this game is in this genre I have to do this or I can’t do that.”

You begin adding things to the game that best fits your goal of making the game without limits or prisons.

]]> By: Eric http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/comment-page-1/#comment-9698 Eric Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:07:11 +0000 http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/#comment-9698 @Captpoco: So, on account of the possibility of there being more bad games by experimenting, we should give it up and play it safe like the AAA industry has been doing for the last decade and a half? No thank you I much rather Mr. Benmergui's approach, because games need evolution, nor more stagnation. @Captpoco: So, on account of the possibility of there being more bad games by experimenting, we should give it up and play it safe like the AAA industry has been doing for the last decade and a half?

No thank you I much rather Mr. Benmergui’s approach, because games need evolution, nor more stagnation.

]]> By: CaptPoco http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/comment-page-1/#comment-9004 CaptPoco Fri, 07 Aug 2009 03:18:31 +0000 http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/#comment-9004 And yet one of the most popular games ever made (World of Warcraft) is a veritable kitchen sink of features. The most popular franchise ever created, the Sims, is based on releasing expansion after needless expansion. Neither game is built around an economy of features or modes of gameplay. Your games are works of art, and fascinating ones at that. However, there is much money to be made in building a better mousetrap, and innovation creates many more duds (Black and White, Homeworld, Virtual Boy) than quality products. And yet one of the most popular games ever made (World of Warcraft) is a veritable kitchen sink of features. The most popular franchise ever created, the Sims, is based on releasing expansion after needless expansion. Neither game is built around an economy of features or modes of gameplay. Your games are works of art, and fascinating ones at that. However, there is much money to be made in building a better mousetrap, and innovation creates many more duds (Black and White, Homeworld, Virtual Boy) than quality products.

]]> By: Guest http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/comment-page-1/#comment-8711 Guest Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:01:16 +0000 http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/#comment-8711 http://www.squidi.net/three/entry.php?id=30 Above is an idea for an MMORPG without leveling, money, experience points, money, and clans/factions. Needless to say, all conventions go out the window. I actually recommend reading that guy's 300 mechanics website. It's very well-written. http://www.squidi.net/three/entry.php?id=30

Above is an idea for an MMORPG without leveling, money, experience points, money, and clans/factions. Needless to say, all conventions go out the window. I actually recommend reading that guy’s 300 mechanics website. It’s very well-written.

]]> By: Guillem http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/comment-page-1/#comment-8611 Guillem Sat, 23 May 2009 20:13:13 +0000 http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/#comment-8611 The industry stepped into a larger market, and more and more peoples took interest into indie games thanks to the unwell called casual gamers. Developpers (artists?) like you brings new perspective for video games! The industry stepped into a larger market, and more and more peoples took interest into indie games thanks to the unwell called casual gamers.

Developpers (artists?) like you brings new perspective for video games!

]]> By: g0m http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/comment-page-1/#comment-8463 g0m Tue, 12 May 2009 19:52:21 +0000 http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/#comment-8463 Personally, I really liked portal. Personally, I really liked portal.

]]> By: » Food for thought http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/comment-page-1/#comment-8454 » Food for thought Tue, 12 May 2009 08:30:35 +0000 http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/#comment-8454 [...] an article I found in my distraction fueled [...] [...] an article I found in my distraction fueled [...]

]]> By: concrete_d http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/comment-page-1/#comment-7881 concrete_d Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:40:31 +0000 http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/#comment-7881 William might be referring to Mirror's Edge. There's still shooting, but it's minimal. The game falls back on conventions in other ways, but is still interesting as an example of removing features to create new gameplay focus. William might be referring to Mirror’s Edge. There’s still shooting, but it’s minimal. The game falls back on conventions in other ways, but is still interesting as an example of removing features to create new gameplay focus.

]]> By: Lee http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/comment-page-1/#comment-7529 Lee Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:13:10 +0000 http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/#comment-7529 I think you may onto something with regard to literature as well. I think you may onto something with regard to literature as well.

]]> By: william http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/comment-page-1/#comment-7327 william Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:07:11 +0000 http://www.ludomancy.com/blog/2006/12/27/being-experimental-defying-genres/#comment-7327 one group has nearly done what youve said up top its a first person platformer, cant recall the name now. just thought youd like to know someone is taking your advice to heart (in spirit) horizon something? cant recall it one group has nearly done what youve said up top
its a first person platformer, cant recall the name now. just thought youd like to know someone is taking your advice to heart (in spirit)
horizon something? cant recall it

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